STAmisha
09-26 01:32 PM
Chandler Sharma (ATL based) is also a horrible law firm.
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gg_ny
07-10 08:45 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/07/10/immigration.military.ap/index.html
After reading the exchange of zoophilic and acrimonious emails this evening, it seemed like reading accounts of state assembly sessions back home. Well, we never miss a chance, do we? For a change, please read General Pace's testimony to the so called 'hearings' earlier today. Contrary to the visible and glaring episodes that stand out in our day today life being targetted upon as immigrants or wannabies, posmd's words are solemn and should encourage us not to lose hope: "If you notice, despite all the bad press about illegals, despite 9/11, the majority of americans are still pro legal immigrants, we are largely to credit for this, along with the pride they have in their forefathers who made the same journey". General Pace's testimony today is a sample supporting the above. Ghost, it was nice of you apologize for your 'list-rage'; hopefully, whatever be the intentions, ForeverGC will learn to see the spirit
that keeps us going, at least before he or she gets the green card ;-)
After reading the exchange of zoophilic and acrimonious emails this evening, it seemed like reading accounts of state assembly sessions back home. Well, we never miss a chance, do we? For a change, please read General Pace's testimony to the so called 'hearings' earlier today. Contrary to the visible and glaring episodes that stand out in our day today life being targetted upon as immigrants or wannabies, posmd's words are solemn and should encourage us not to lose hope: "If you notice, despite all the bad press about illegals, despite 9/11, the majority of americans are still pro legal immigrants, we are largely to credit for this, along with the pride they have in their forefathers who made the same journey". General Pace's testimony today is a sample supporting the above. Ghost, it was nice of you apologize for your 'list-rage'; hopefully, whatever be the intentions, ForeverGC will learn to see the spirit
that keeps us going, at least before he or she gets the green card ;-)
elle26w
09-20 09:53 PM
Alterego has a good point too. we need professional lobbist to organize more efficient events ( in American way ). we do have immigration lawyers association, but I guess they don't really represent us.
and besides another rally, we need persistent effort on this by a dedicated group of people, even some full time ( hired them, like a real job), to keep their attention, not just one strike.
I have to admire the unbelievable energy and commitment of you guys. Especially those who organized the rally and to some extent those who attended it from far away are probably tired and catching their breath!
We need to have some creativity and strategy in our next step. Rally after rally probably is not the best way to get that, the so called law of diminishing returns. The flower protest for example gave us a lot of visibility and media coverage since it was something intriguing and new. It was fairly inexpensive and got us the kind of coverage we wanted and arguably results that were out of size with the effort.
I think we need to think outside the box and have one more high publicity event. Another rally is certainly an option for later should legislative action heat up. I'm hopeful the upcoming legislation will allow someone to introduce friendly legislation. I am sure IV's lobbying advisers will have some input on timing etc. and I am pretty sure organizations like compete America etc. also will use this to push their efforts as well. IV core ought to be in contact with them.
A few very important things came from this rally. Firstly, that we can organize such an event, in no small part due to such a committed and capable leadership team. We got fairly good media coverage in highly visible newspapers, that covered not just the event but also some of the issues facing us in clear detail. Finally the lobby day events were definitely very good. I was amazed that 150 meetings took place.
To put this in context, large national organizations of some professions have these lobby days sometimes, and they do well to get about 100 lawmaker meetings done.
One thing I wish to add is that we must develop a good way of sending out many letters at will/as per the strategy of IV core to the lawmakers at critical times. We are 23K strong. Surely we can get atleast as many letters sent in to lawmakers at critical times. If you can't send a written petition to a lawmaker then I doubt it makes any sense to even think you or anyone can alter your fate, in that case time spent on sites like this is for what reason?
Professional organizations do letter campaigns all the time and get a good response. If everyone moves on these issues it does create a splash and can bring visibility and attention.
All ideas should be collected here in this thread.
and besides another rally, we need persistent effort on this by a dedicated group of people, even some full time ( hired them, like a real job), to keep their attention, not just one strike.
I have to admire the unbelievable energy and commitment of you guys. Especially those who organized the rally and to some extent those who attended it from far away are probably tired and catching their breath!
We need to have some creativity and strategy in our next step. Rally after rally probably is not the best way to get that, the so called law of diminishing returns. The flower protest for example gave us a lot of visibility and media coverage since it was something intriguing and new. It was fairly inexpensive and got us the kind of coverage we wanted and arguably results that were out of size with the effort.
I think we need to think outside the box and have one more high publicity event. Another rally is certainly an option for later should legislative action heat up. I'm hopeful the upcoming legislation will allow someone to introduce friendly legislation. I am sure IV's lobbying advisers will have some input on timing etc. and I am pretty sure organizations like compete America etc. also will use this to push their efforts as well. IV core ought to be in contact with them.
A few very important things came from this rally. Firstly, that we can organize such an event, in no small part due to such a committed and capable leadership team. We got fairly good media coverage in highly visible newspapers, that covered not just the event but also some of the issues facing us in clear detail. Finally the lobby day events were definitely very good. I was amazed that 150 meetings took place.
To put this in context, large national organizations of some professions have these lobby days sometimes, and they do well to get about 100 lawmaker meetings done.
One thing I wish to add is that we must develop a good way of sending out many letters at will/as per the strategy of IV core to the lawmakers at critical times. We are 23K strong. Surely we can get atleast as many letters sent in to lawmakers at critical times. If you can't send a written petition to a lawmaker then I doubt it makes any sense to even think you or anyone can alter your fate, in that case time spent on sites like this is for what reason?
Professional organizations do letter campaigns all the time and get a good response. If everyone moves on these issues it does create a splash and can bring visibility and attention.
All ideas should be collected here in this thread.
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nrakkati
03-21 03:28 PM
There you go. Here is the link for the opinion letter
www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf
(http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf)
Read it, Understand it and then please let me know if you still think that OP was in "unauthorized work", as this is what you have written before
Again, Thanks a bunch Desi3933. My case is pretty much same as 'Scenario 1' in this Murthy document.
Desi3933 cleared the 99% of the cloud surrounded this issue by pointing to murthy.com (I maintained valid status with 'Employer #2' and this doc says I am good to go). Thank you very much Desi3933.
Apologize for extending the topic....but one of the 'still open' question is what if the Second Employer H1B is 'NEW' and what if it is 'Transfer'.
Murthy document does not say about the Company B H1B is NEW or TRANSFERRED.
If New H1B and Transferred H1B are same....then problem is solved.
Many of you here said both are same. I assume so too. But, we haven't proved Gapala is wrong yet (no hard feelings gapala. it is not my intention to hurt you). if 'NEW and TRANSFERRED' are different, Murthy should have mentioned in her Document, but she did not do that. So, can we safely assume, that 'NEW and TRANSFERRED' are same.
Thank you everyone who responding to my post.
www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf
(http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf)
Read it, Understand it and then please let me know if you still think that OP was in "unauthorized work", as this is what you have written before
Again, Thanks a bunch Desi3933. My case is pretty much same as 'Scenario 1' in this Murthy document.
Desi3933 cleared the 99% of the cloud surrounded this issue by pointing to murthy.com (I maintained valid status with 'Employer #2' and this doc says I am good to go). Thank you very much Desi3933.
Apologize for extending the topic....but one of the 'still open' question is what if the Second Employer H1B is 'NEW' and what if it is 'Transfer'.
Murthy document does not say about the Company B H1B is NEW or TRANSFERRED.
If New H1B and Transferred H1B are same....then problem is solved.
Many of you here said both are same. I assume so too. But, we haven't proved Gapala is wrong yet (no hard feelings gapala. it is not my intention to hurt you). if 'NEW and TRANSFERRED' are different, Murthy should have mentioned in her Document, but she did not do that. So, can we safely assume, that 'NEW and TRANSFERRED' are same.
Thank you everyone who responding to my post.
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SKK2004
06-24 02:19 PM
Similar to other callers, the lady who answered the phone took my name and where I am calling from and said she will pass on the mesasge to the Congressman.
gcnirvana
06-23 03:01 PM
I just called and got a similiar very supportive response from the staff. She mentioned that she is getting a lot of phone calls about the 3 bills and will let him know about it. Go IV Go :)
I just called and spoke to a staff member at Lamar Smith's office. Apparently a lot of calls are being made :D. She knew why I was calling before I could tell her. I was told that the Rep. has not made a public stand on these bills yet. I told her that I would like the Representative to support these bills if and when they come to the floor.
Keep calling, guys!.
I just called and spoke to a staff member at Lamar Smith's office. Apparently a lot of calls are being made :D. She knew why I was calling before I could tell her. I was told that the Rep. has not made a public stand on these bills yet. I told her that I would like the Representative to support these bills if and when they come to the floor.
Keep calling, guys!.
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99mutd08
05-20 03:19 PM
Pappu,
Looking at the poor response, I am wondering if we should post it on other immigration forums to gain further momentum?
Looking at the poor response, I am wondering if we should post it on other immigration forums to gain further momentum?
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06-27 12:46 AM
I got my EAD card earlier this week. My validity is 6/19/2008 -6/18/2009....it is the same day as I recieved EAD "approved" notice via the CRIS email. My "July Fiasco" EAD expires 9/16/2008.....so yes I lose 3 months!!!!
So much for applying early :(
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So much for applying early :(
appply early and lose time
apply late and risk not being able to work
lose- lose for us
win-win for USCIS.
we really need to make the retrogression a relic of the past...
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wkhalifa
06-17 09:54 PM
can any one help me i left my company and i joined another company (h1b transfer rec date was 3/13/07 and still pending is this normal ? if my previous company revoke my visa after the new copmany filed for the transfer will this be a reason for ins to deny my h1b transfer? please help
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theshiningsun
05-20 04:51 PM
pasted below dotted line.
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Thank you for contacting me about my views on the current immigration proposals being considered by Congress.
I have long supported legislation to curb illegal immigration by increasing criminal penalties for immigrant smuggling and document fraud, eliminating the use of government documents that are easily forged, and doubling the number of border patrol guards. Better enforcement and tougher penalties for both undocumented immigrants and their lawbreaking employers are the way to fight unauthorized employment, and employment opportunities are what drive illegal immigration.
Unless we fix the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) and enforce our own labor laws, we will continue to debate how high the fence should be and how many agents should guard our border � with no real solution in sight. In 1994, the U.S. signed NAFTA, which promised, among other things, to help create a thriving middle class in Mexico. At that time there were 3 million undocumented workers in the U.S.; today there are more than 11 million. In Mexico, 9 million more live in poverty than when NAFTA was enacted. NAFTA has failed the U.S. and Mexico. By creating an atmosphere where Mexican citizens feel they have no chance of a successful life in Mexico, these ill-conceived trade agreements increase the number of illegal immigrants coming into our country.
In addition to addressing the forces that are compelling illegal immigration, we must take action to bring illegal immigrants out of the shadows. While I do not support amnesty and have serious concerns about guest worker programs, I do believe our nation should consider establishing a process by which illegal immigrants can eventually earn citizenship. The solution to our immigration problem will not be a simple one, as many things in our country need to be fixed to stop illegal immigration. It is time to take a common sense approach to immigration reform.
The Senate most recently considered immigration when S.1639 was introduced in the 110th Congress. On June 28, 2007, the Senate rejected a cloture motion to proceed to final passage of S.1639 by a vote of 46 yeas to 53 nays. I was deeply concerned about the guest worker provisions in this bill, and voted against proceeding to a final vote. Should these issues come again before the Senate in the 111th Congress, I will be sure to keep your views in mind. Thank you again for contacting me.
Sincerely,
Sherrod Brown
United States Senator
Stay connected with what's happening in Congress. Sign up here for regular updates on the issues you care about the most: Senator Sherrod Brown | Senator for Ohio: Newsletter (http://brown.senate.gov/newsletter/landing)
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Thank you for contacting me about my views on the current immigration proposals being considered by Congress.
I have long supported legislation to curb illegal immigration by increasing criminal penalties for immigrant smuggling and document fraud, eliminating the use of government documents that are easily forged, and doubling the number of border patrol guards. Better enforcement and tougher penalties for both undocumented immigrants and their lawbreaking employers are the way to fight unauthorized employment, and employment opportunities are what drive illegal immigration.
Unless we fix the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) and enforce our own labor laws, we will continue to debate how high the fence should be and how many agents should guard our border � with no real solution in sight. In 1994, the U.S. signed NAFTA, which promised, among other things, to help create a thriving middle class in Mexico. At that time there were 3 million undocumented workers in the U.S.; today there are more than 11 million. In Mexico, 9 million more live in poverty than when NAFTA was enacted. NAFTA has failed the U.S. and Mexico. By creating an atmosphere where Mexican citizens feel they have no chance of a successful life in Mexico, these ill-conceived trade agreements increase the number of illegal immigrants coming into our country.
In addition to addressing the forces that are compelling illegal immigration, we must take action to bring illegal immigrants out of the shadows. While I do not support amnesty and have serious concerns about guest worker programs, I do believe our nation should consider establishing a process by which illegal immigrants can eventually earn citizenship. The solution to our immigration problem will not be a simple one, as many things in our country need to be fixed to stop illegal immigration. It is time to take a common sense approach to immigration reform.
The Senate most recently considered immigration when S.1639 was introduced in the 110th Congress. On June 28, 2007, the Senate rejected a cloture motion to proceed to final passage of S.1639 by a vote of 46 yeas to 53 nays. I was deeply concerned about the guest worker provisions in this bill, and voted against proceeding to a final vote. Should these issues come again before the Senate in the 111th Congress, I will be sure to keep your views in mind. Thank you again for contacting me.
Sincerely,
Sherrod Brown
United States Senator
Stay connected with what's happening in Congress. Sign up here for regular updates on the issues you care about the most: Senator Sherrod Brown | Senator for Ohio: Newsletter (http://brown.senate.gov/newsletter/landing)
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sanju
03-05 03:58 PM
Ya, I am thinking of starting an outsourcing company which could take this stupid easy work from USCIS and outsource all that work to Thailand. Then I will sponsor work visa for all these bumps at USCIS to work in the outsourced site. Soon you will see me in the court of loo doggs answering his question "how in the world did you outsource all these 'american' jobs"? And my answer would be 'because these guys were all genius and were expert at eastimating the cost of running a query. So we hired bunch of them to represent the company with USCIS."
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I think I know how this works. They would outsource this program to some govt contractor (or ask the govt contractor who is working on their data ) to produce that report which costs (<10$ worth of time/effort, if they have all the data).
If all they want is money ..so be it. I am ready to pony up $50 for this,if we all approach together. But as someone suggested country of chargability is a must.
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I think I know how this works. They would outsource this program to some govt contractor (or ask the govt contractor who is working on their data ) to produce that report which costs (<10$ worth of time/effort, if they have all the data).
If all they want is money ..so be it. I am ready to pony up $50 for this,if we all approach together. But as someone suggested country of chargability is a must.
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Jaime
09-05 02:22 PM
Add 1 to counter. I am in from California...Great news! See you there!!!
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jchan
02-12 04:06 PM
I initially posted below text to reply another thread, but the title is not much relavant. So I decided to create a new thread here:
As a background, the pre-application of AOS (file 485 without PD being current) is mentioned in a DHS newsletter here (credit goes to kate123 for finding it).
http://www.dhs.gov/ynews/releases/pr_1233353528835.shtm
Here is the text:
Legal Immigration Benefit Backlogs. What progress has been made in reducing the significant backlogs that had developed in the adjudication of naturalization petitions and adjustment of status (green card) applications? Which regional offices still lag behind in making progress toward target processing times, and what specific steps are recommended for providing priority resources to those offices?
Please provide an assessment of information-sharing with the Department of State’s Bureau of Consular Affairs on projected adjustment caseloads, to be used by that Bureau in setting each month’s cutoff dates on waiting lists for immigration categories that are limited by a yearly quota. What steps have been taken and what further steps are recommended to make sure that the full quota of permanent immigration spaces is used each fiscal year? What regulatory or legislative changes (including a possible pre-application filing procedure for adjustment cases) are recommended to facilitate caseload planning and make optimum use of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services adjudication capacity?
This is a great finding I've read that page, but never noticed the Secretary of DHS specifically mentioned Pre-Application of AOS. Now that they do have this in their mind, can we start working on that? I'd love to share a few thoughts I have on it:
From the lessons we learnt from the past, the most important thing for this admin fix to fly is compromise: there must be kind of restriction for the pre-application AOS. A few examples I could think of are:
- The person has been in the country LEGALLY for more than a number of years, OR
- The PD are more than a certain number years old, OR
- I-140 has been approved, OR
- Must have MS or higher for a US college (just for argument's sake, please don't flame me).
The key is to not allow everyone to file pre-application or it'll be drown in a media storm and draw backfires. Yet it gives you a certain promise that you'll be able to file pre-application once you are here for a certain period of time, so everyone has hope and those who has suffered more would have an almost certain chance to do so.
IV core, should we work on this? This is the first time we see pre-application of AOS appears in official file and I believe it's a great opportunity.
As a background, the pre-application of AOS (file 485 without PD being current) is mentioned in a DHS newsletter here (credit goes to kate123 for finding it).
http://www.dhs.gov/ynews/releases/pr_1233353528835.shtm
Here is the text:
Legal Immigration Benefit Backlogs. What progress has been made in reducing the significant backlogs that had developed in the adjudication of naturalization petitions and adjustment of status (green card) applications? Which regional offices still lag behind in making progress toward target processing times, and what specific steps are recommended for providing priority resources to those offices?
Please provide an assessment of information-sharing with the Department of State’s Bureau of Consular Affairs on projected adjustment caseloads, to be used by that Bureau in setting each month’s cutoff dates on waiting lists for immigration categories that are limited by a yearly quota. What steps have been taken and what further steps are recommended to make sure that the full quota of permanent immigration spaces is used each fiscal year? What regulatory or legislative changes (including a possible pre-application filing procedure for adjustment cases) are recommended to facilitate caseload planning and make optimum use of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services adjudication capacity?
This is a great finding I've read that page, but never noticed the Secretary of DHS specifically mentioned Pre-Application of AOS. Now that they do have this in their mind, can we start working on that? I'd love to share a few thoughts I have on it:
From the lessons we learnt from the past, the most important thing for this admin fix to fly is compromise: there must be kind of restriction for the pre-application AOS. A few examples I could think of are:
- The person has been in the country LEGALLY for more than a number of years, OR
- The PD are more than a certain number years old, OR
- I-140 has been approved, OR
- Must have MS or higher for a US college (just for argument's sake, please don't flame me).
The key is to not allow everyone to file pre-application or it'll be drown in a media storm and draw backfires. Yet it gives you a certain promise that you'll be able to file pre-application once you are here for a certain period of time, so everyone has hope and those who has suffered more would have an almost certain chance to do so.
IV core, should we work on this? This is the first time we see pre-application of AOS appears in official file and I believe it's a great opportunity.
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Dhundhun
05-26 02:00 PM
I am not sure what you mean...
Michael chertoff answered the same in simple terms, in my reply references are there.
Michael chertoff answered the same in simple terms, in my reply references are there.
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vdlrao
07-14 12:04 PM
Please find out the visa numbers allotment for EB1, EB2 and EB3 till now. Till now there is about 100k visa numbers allotment for EB3 every year due to the vertical fallout. From now on there would be around 100K allotment in EB2 due to the change to Horizontal Fall out of visa numbers. Out of these 100k EB2 visa numbers, India will get greatest share of around 50k + visas. Please see the below.
Type and class of admission 1998-- 1999-- 2000-- 2001-- 2002-- 2003-- 2004-- 2005-- 2006-- 2007
Employment-based preferences 77,413-- 56,678-- 106,642--178,702--173,814--81,727--155,330--246,877--159,081--162,176
First: Priority workers 21,375-- 14,844-- 27,566-- 41,672-- 34,168-- 14,453-- 31,291-- 64,731-- 36,960-- 26,697
Second: advanced degrees or exceptional ability 14,362--8,557-- 20,255-- 42,550-- 44,316-- 15,406-- 32,534 --42,597-- 21,911-- 44,162
Third: Skilled workers 34,282 --27,920--49,589--85,847-- 88,002-- 46,415-- 85,969-- 129,070--89,922-- 85,030
Fourth: Special immigrants 6,570-- 5,072-- 9,014-- 8,442-- 7,186-- 5,389-- 5,407-- 10,133-- 9,539-- 5,481
Fifth: (investors) 824-- 285-- 218-- 191-- 142-- 64-- 129-- 346-- 749-- 806
See the link below for reference:
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/yearbook/2007/table06d.xls
Type and class of admission 1998-- 1999-- 2000-- 2001-- 2002-- 2003-- 2004-- 2005-- 2006-- 2007
Employment-based preferences 77,413-- 56,678-- 106,642--178,702--173,814--81,727--155,330--246,877--159,081--162,176
First: Priority workers 21,375-- 14,844-- 27,566-- 41,672-- 34,168-- 14,453-- 31,291-- 64,731-- 36,960-- 26,697
Second: advanced degrees or exceptional ability 14,362--8,557-- 20,255-- 42,550-- 44,316-- 15,406-- 32,534 --42,597-- 21,911-- 44,162
Third: Skilled workers 34,282 --27,920--49,589--85,847-- 88,002-- 46,415-- 85,969-- 129,070--89,922-- 85,030
Fourth: Special immigrants 6,570-- 5,072-- 9,014-- 8,442-- 7,186-- 5,389-- 5,407-- 10,133-- 9,539-- 5,481
Fifth: (investors) 824-- 285-- 218-- 191-- 142-- 64-- 129-- 346-- 749-- 806
See the link below for reference:
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/yearbook/2007/table06d.xls
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ak_2006
01-12 10:26 AM
If the law suit needs money, I will contribute minimum $500.
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arunmohan
02-14 01:09 AM
IV:
This would be a ray of light for us. Please make a strategy or plan for how to move in this direction.
This would be a ray of light for us. Please make a strategy or plan for how to move in this direction.
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coolfun
07-03 02:43 PM
When exactly did you submit your application? I just called a few minutes ago to ask about mine (which was submitted early May) and the guy said I should not be affected by this as I should already be well into "the process by now" meaning I should have already been assigned a visa. He spoke very very slow...so I don't know if he was 100% sure of what he was saying:confused:
My 485 application was also received my USCIS in second week of May '07. Does this mean that they have alloted visa number to me as well? I am confused :(
My 485 application was also received my USCIS in second week of May '07. Does this mean that they have alloted visa number to me as well? I am confused :(
pappu
10-14 03:35 PM
There was a Telecon held yesterday night ( 9:00 pm - 10:30 pm) on establishment of news state chapters. Some core members as well as some veteran State Chapter leaders participated along with us greenhorns (newbies). Me, Chintu25 and CagedCactus participated from Michigan. Regretfully since it was a last moment decision , more members couldn't be invited to participate.
I was active in the Telecon almost to the last (I hope). It was a highly educative and informational to listen to the IV Core perspective on State Chapters. Veterans also pitched in with their experience in organizing their chapters (some super secret recipes were revealed :)). Some chapter leaders for new chapters also introduced some great ideas. To the end, I started bombarding the core with lots of questions, and they were patient in answering all of those ( b/n 10-10:30 pm!).
Unfortunately these matters cannot be discussed in the public forum here as we are monitored by Anti-Immigrants. Ditto for E-mails and PMs as we have no way of verifying the authenticity of the other person. So please don't feel offended if your PMs and E-mail inquiries remain unanswered!
ONLY way to get acquainted with the 'inside news' is to participate in the 10/20 meeting, details of which are published below. Be there if you wish to remain in the know.
It was nice talking to you and others.
Thanks for attending the call.
I was active in the Telecon almost to the last (I hope). It was a highly educative and informational to listen to the IV Core perspective on State Chapters. Veterans also pitched in with their experience in organizing their chapters (some super secret recipes were revealed :)). Some chapter leaders for new chapters also introduced some great ideas. To the end, I started bombarding the core with lots of questions, and they were patient in answering all of those ( b/n 10-10:30 pm!).
Unfortunately these matters cannot be discussed in the public forum here as we are monitored by Anti-Immigrants. Ditto for E-mails and PMs as we have no way of verifying the authenticity of the other person. So please don't feel offended if your PMs and E-mail inquiries remain unanswered!
ONLY way to get acquainted with the 'inside news' is to participate in the 10/20 meeting, details of which are published below. Be there if you wish to remain in the know.
It was nice talking to you and others.
Thanks for attending the call.
ak_2006
06-03 04:23 PM
I sent mail today.
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